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Tuesday, April 30, 2013

Voices on Pediatric DIPG Biopsy- Nicholas Foreman MD ChB


ASCO 2012 Educational Session Presentation

"If the the definition of insanity is doing the same useless thing with the same outcome, this is it."
....Dr Nick Foreman speaking on the negative results on dozens of trials in DIPGs with no biologic knowledge of the tumor


Dr Nick Foreman,  director of the pediatric neuro-oncology program at Denver Children's, presented the second lecture at the 2012 ASCO educational meeting  "Pontine Gliomas in Children:To Biopsy or Not to Biopsy".    Dr Foreman along with his colleague, neurosurgeon Dr Michael Handler, actively and aggressively challenged medicine's standard practice of not preforming biopsies in 10% of children with brain tumors when that tumor (DIPG) has been almost always fatal and no trial has shown any benefit for the tumor.  They argued that it was really unethical to continue to subject these patients to phase 1 trials to obtain toxicity and dosage data when one could not show any benefit from the dozens of trials previously.   These two physicians worked to have the American Society of Neurosurgery reverse the standard practice of not preforming biopsies for DIPG children.   

This 16 1/2 minute presentation is a personal account of the resistance encountered when developing DIPG research that stemmed from work done in 2004 in biopsies of pediatric supratentorial GBMs.  The 2004 work lead to a 2007 IRB proposal in which 10 children with DIPGs were to be biopsied (with parental consent) without treatment based on those biopsies.  This was pretty much exactly what France had already done and published results with no mortality and transient morbidity.  However, the local IRB could not make a decision resulting in an FDA hearing on the topic.  The results of the FDA panel was mixed so the initial proposal of 10 children being biopsied was rejected in favor of the current upfront biopsy trial that is underway.

Now that we have the biopsy trial open in the US  and 2011 Consensus Conference on Pediatric Neurosurgery specifically stated a standard regarding biopsy of typical pediatric DIPGs within clinical trials, we may now be past much of the controversy of the past decade.   Still, I think it is important to know the traumatic, tragic history of how this stagnated DIPG research.  

Dr. Foreman ends pondering a question on whether we "missed the boat" for DIPG children by failing to openly recognize that in experienced hands DIPG biopsy is not more dangerous than in other areas of the brain.    

If the majority understood that the 1993 paper recommending "routine biopsies be relegated to history" was referring to MRI's accuracy of diagnosis and not on DIPGs surgical risk/safety, could we have moved faster in the current age of cancer molecular biology to have known about such abnormalities as the histone mutation much earlier.  Perhaps we could have been further along on a cure.

References:
Nicholas Foreman, Pediatric Neuro-Oncologist

Interpretation of magnetic resonance images in diffuse intrinsic pontine glioma: a survey of pediatric neurosurgeons

Slides of Dr Foreman's presentation in 2009 to the FDA

Magnetic resonance scans should replace biopsies for the diagnosis of diffuse brainstem gliomas:  a report from the Children's Cancer Group

Monday, April 29, 2013

Voices on Pediatric DIPG Biopsy - Stephanie Puget MD PhD

ASCO 2012 Educational Session Presentation

One of the most controversial subjects in pediatric DIPGs over the last decade has been the biopsy issue.  This has been the topic of discussion in private, editorials and even an FDA open hearing.   At the 2012 ASCO meeting in Chicago there was an educational meeting chaired by Mark Kieran MD PhD entitled "Pontine Gliomas in Children:To Biopsy or Not to Biopsy".   To me the greatest thing about this session is that it was taped and made available on the internet.   This allows for those who were not in Chicago last year for ASCO to have a better understanding directly from some of the key international figures regarding this extremely important matter.

Stephanie Puget MD PhD, a French neurosurgeon, started the session with a 20 minutes presentation on "Is Biopsy Safe in Children with Newly Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Pontine Glioma?"  Dr Puget is a central figure in the landmark French DIPG clinical trial with upfront biopsy.   Since the 2007 publication it seems that Dr Puget has had speaking engagements on both sides of the Atlantic to discuss DIPG biopsy.  This was the first time though that I was able to actually hear her speak.

Dr. Puget started her talk with five questions.
1) Is biopsy needed for a DIPG diagnosis?
2) If not, why do biopsy for DIPG?
3) Can DIPG biopsy be safely preformed?
4) Can DIPG biopsy be preformed by everyone?
5) What can be done with the biopsy specimens?

The short answers-
1) No, it is made by MRI in conjunction with clinical symptoms.
2) Analysis of the tumors may lead to relevant biomakers and hopefully better treatment.
3) Yes.
4) No.
5) Allows for molecular studies (including whole genome sequencing and mutational analysis) and cell lines (of which they had 5 stem cell lines a the time).

During the presentation she reviewed the results of the French Biopsy experience.   From 2002 to 2012, 92 biopsies were preformed with no mortality and only 5 patients experience morbidity.  Four of these patients had transient problems including cranial nerve palsies or weakness.  One child had a permanent hemiparesis but also was found to have disease progression.  She said "it could be considered as safe as a stereotactic biopsy in the supra-tentorial space in a well-trained neurosurgical team".

She also addressed a few technical considerations: frame versus frameless surgery, choosing a route and choosing a biopsy site.  Please note at approximately 14:30 minutes there are real videos of biopsy in children.  At 18:30 minutes the size of the biopsy samples is shown as well as pre and post procedure MRIs.

For those interested in the pediatric DIPG biopsy issue, this is a very informative 20 minute presentation from someone who as been on the frontline.  

Reference:
Is Biopsy Safe in Children with Newly Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Pontine Glioma?
Stephanie Puget MD PhD
http://meetinglibrary.asco.org/content/66763